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LISTEN NOW! Greg, Pat, and John are talking about how fatal it is to get into a conversation with someone who is dead set on doing evil. Greg shares about the steps that conversations take and how they end up for they have been around since the Garden of Eden and they still exist today. When one begins to dialogue with the devil, or one is held captive by the devil, as Paul tells Timothy in his leadership of him, for the purpose of doing his will, it will not end well; it never does, for it normally ends with a fall.