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Home » VFNRadio Xtra Hour October 3, 2013

VFNRadio Xtra Hour October 3, 2013



Alinsky Followers: Hillary, Obama and _____? Are They Using Tips from Lucifer on how to organize America and the World?


Greg and Pat continue the talk about organizer and author, Saul Alinsky’s book, Rules for Radicals, which is dedicated to the practices of Lucifer. [see Tips from Lucifer to organize America and the world, really?]  It is difficult to share this as we want to be respectful of our president and honor him for the place of leadership he holds in our nation.  It is being shared to understand the “Light” [Matthew 5:14-16] view of what is taking place spiritually, not to speak in such a way to dishonor President Obama.  In addition, Greg shares about how the “spirit” of Elijah and “spirit” of Jezebel will both be present in the days before our Lord returns.  Malachi 4:5-6


Greg was shocked to find out that both President Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are children of Saul Alinsky; children in the sense spoken of in Revelation 2:20-23. We all, outside of Jesus Christ, walk in the darkness that covers the earth and under the thick darkness that covers men.  Isaiah 60:1-3 So it is to this encouragement of scriptures that remind us that God loves us all and desires for all of us, even those who follow the teachings of those who lead God’s servants astray to be saved; He gives us time to repent and follow Him, His teachings.  Listen to Greg share his journey of understanding when his copy Rules for Radicals showed up only to see in the front of it was dedicated to Lucifer  (Satan) and in the back of it (on the back cover) it was dedicated to two of Saul Alinsky’s followers (children) Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.  1 Timothy 2:3-4


“Alinsky’s techniques and teachings influenced generations of community and labor organizers, including the CHURCH-BASED GROUP hiring a young [Barack] Obama to work on Chicago’s South Side in the 1980’s…Alinsky impressed a young [Hillary] Clinton, who was growing up in Park Ridge at the time Alinsky was the director of the Industry Areas Foundation in Chicago.” [See back cover]

-Chicago Sun Times

Hillary Clinton, seemingly mentored by Alinsky, was offered a job working for Alinsky, but chose to go to college instead. She wrote her thesis on Saul Alinsky practices titled, “There Is Only the Fight . . . “: An Analysis of the Alinsky Model” while attending  Wellesley College .  Her paper was so revealing reportedly of her being one of Alinsky’s children that when her husband, Bill Clinton, was elected President of the United States, Wellesley College had her thesis sealed!



YEARS reportedly under Saul Alinsky’s leadership. The tactics, Alinsky attributes to the ones Lucifer used!  Being a child of Alinsky, a constitutional lawyer and now the president of the United States gives him ample opportunity to “organize America and the world” using these techniques, while his Alinsky sibling, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, focus on possibly organizing the world as the “most traveled secretary of state.” The question might not be is America and the world being organized, it might be what are we being organized for?

Jesus tells us that those who HOLD TO (follow) His teachings are REALLY God’s children, disciple and that those who HOLD TO (follow) Jezebel’s teachings [Jezebel refers to a spirit, not a gender] are her/his children.  Jezebel, being someone held captive by Lucifer to do his will, seduce authority, use it as theirs while masquerading as an angel of light, when inside they could be ferocious wolves.  When God deals with those held captive by this dark spirit it reveals to the church, believers, that He searches minds, hearts and motives, no matter how much of an “angle of light” Lucifer may be portraying, or how many ‘children’ he or she has that seem like they are “servants of righteousness.”   Revelation 2:20-23; John 8:31-32; 2 Corinthians 11:13-14; Revelation 2:18-29; 2 Timothy 2:25-26; Matthew 7:14-16


 “My people are destroyed from lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge,I also reject you as my priests because you have ignored the law of your God, I also will ignore your children.”  Hosea 4:6


Greg shares about how it’s not for Christians, the Church, to tell those how to live their life if they choose not to follow Jesus Christ making Him the Lord of their life.  For the many in the church are held captive by this same spirit personally, in our marriages, families and fellowships.  How will the world ever be free if those who claim to be “set free” are not, but under the same dark spirit of trying to “organize” by unspoken “tips from Lucifer” their marriages, families and Church fellowships?  Luke 4:18-19  Listen to it in its entirety now.


THE LAW! Are They Using Tips from Lucifer on how to organize America and the world?


Greg and Pat continue the talk about organizer and author, Saul Alinsky’s book, Rules for Radicals, which is dedicated to the practices of Lucifer on tactic four (4), THE LAW! [see Are They Using Tips from Lucifer to organize America and the world, really?]


The FOURTH TACTIC from Rules for Radicals is…


“Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules. You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity.”


Greg shares how we as Christians, “Christ-followers,” are to respond to this type of verbal assault.  He tells us clearly that NO MAN is saved by obeying some law and if we break one law we’ve broken them all.  The GOOD NEWS is about Jesus Christ and that He was the only One who ever OBEYED ALL OF THE RULES set by God.  Then He loved mankind so much that he laid down His life and became a sacrifice for those who understand that we can never fully obey the law, or be saved by it because of our sin nature.  For we are saved by grace and grace alone and then empowered by this same grace to walk in the light, the ways of Jesus Christ as we completely rely upon God’s finished worked on the Cross of Christ. 


Yet we see religious spirits in the land that are speaking as if they are perfect when it comes to the laws of God in their own abilities and they protest against leaders in Washington, D.C. as the “moral majority” which is doing nothing but setting themselves up for the successful tactic that works on anyone who is self-righteous about anything including the things of God. 


With 97% of those who call themselves Christians in America not reading the Bible, or Word of God, according to George Barna, which teaches us these truths; the Light of God’s Word, one tends to think of themselves as being right because of their own works.  [81% of regular Church attendee’s don’t read their Bibles at all, and only 3% read it in a way to make life decisions of the 19% who do read the Bible.] Yes, faith without works is dead, but works without faith is just as dead.  It’s when faith and works come together is one’s faith complete. 


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